OUR idea of a GREAT night meeting a Single Guy
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Posted:May 2, 2019 2:05 pm
Last Updated:Aug 26, 2020 3:51 pm
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POSITIVE MEETING STORY
-- we visited Atlantic city NEW JERSEY in August 2018...we met a great guy, handsome model quality looks, great physique , well above average size and great interactive personality with sex appeal..
we went for drinks, light bite to eat around pm... dancing a bit at the night club where she is more than willing to kiss, dance and "rub" while flirtation begins but respectfully so in public...
She invited him back to our hotel room at 1am....he fell asleep at 5am ---so great stamina, fun MFM , sharing her and "taking turns. He awoke to us at 9:30am still at it ....
He had thought we went to sleep....we actually took a few breaks but were still having fun some 4 and a half hours later AFTER already spending 4 hours MFM with him-- ..
He exclaimed "AND I thought I was good!!" we all had a nice laugh, the comment and the moment of experience was worth the whole night...
it was great he came to a true realization we were the type of couple is NOT missing anything at all ...we enjoy sex, interaction and fun with the right people and he was a great match for us to have been cognizant, socially adept, and perfectly flirtatious to enjoy the night with us
There was no role -fantasy enactment, "need" to perform for us nor us him.
No need other than to have a good natural time with the buildup of the night and the excitement she found someone she liked enough to invite back to the room which happens RARELY ---
She has no real "need" for the LifeStyle but likes to when it fits and makes sense to her.
We are always happy and refreshed we met some one has NATURAL ability to make a connection with social skills to garner the right kind of attention without having to force their own agenda on an already experienced couple.
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DICK pics....Are we interested?
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Posted:Sep 23, 2018 2:03 am
Last Updated:Jul 26, 2019 8:07 pm
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Lets set the stage.
We have received literally thousands of IM and email messages since we have been members that introduce themselves by the following.
"ARE YOU INTERESTED IN MEETING" ??
We go to the profile only to find a one sentence description of the person and multiple DICK pics.
It should be known that EVERY MAN on the planet has a dick unless of course you are a Eunuch.
For those that dont know what this is .....in ancient times many kings, Emperors and rulers would castrate the male servants ensuring that they could not sleep with the queen or rulers wife. Thus keeping them safe from sexual advances of the lower class.
So we now know its safe to say if you are in modern times you have a cock. AWESOME , great start!!
Now of course some cocks are nicer than others and some women like bigger or smaller ... so yes cock is a factor in deciding whether or not to meet, but it is of relatively low importance to the package as a whole when trying to choose the right partners.
There is by population a very small fetish community that is more than happy to choose you based on the size or attractiveness of just your cock but most true alternative lifestyle community members DO NOT choose based on a DICK pic alone.
YET almost 90% of all single male profiles only have a DICK pic and a one line sentence as a profile description.
MEN -----PAY SOME FUCKING ATTENTION TO THE LAWS OF NATURAL HUMAN INTERACTION, and STOP creating profiles around the totality of your dick.
When was the last time you put a bag over your head, pulled your cock out at a night club or bar and had 20 women swooning over the unbelievable beauty and awe of your cock.
NEVER ......oh we thought so ... that doesn't work?? Well then WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT WORK HERE ?
What the makes you think that 3 pics of your DICK will make any women be so particularly excited that she has to answer YES oh my god I am incredibly interested in you over the 10,987,324.5 other DICK pics (fictitious number for effect lol)
This site is laden with dull , mundane profiles of single men with lame profiles and even more disappointing dick pics.
At a 16 to 1 ratio of MALE users to females or couples why do single men think its only their cock that will land them a partner?
Oh we forgot your cock is the best one out of the 1,689,598 other cock only pics on this site. (fictitious number BTW)
Come on, use some intelligent thought and think about the basic human laws of attraction and natural interaction, its truly common sense.
Why not try creating a profile with content , quality pictures, a description of yourself as a normal human being and not an icon of a deviant cock lusting after every open hole you see ? How do you court females when you go out to the bar?
Do you show them your cock in 5 seconds or do you introduce yourself, ask questions , tell a funny story and get to know the person before you hopefully land the one night stand a few hours later.
Why we have to create this post to discuss the topic is ridiculous. YES , this is a sex site, but a little common sense and a bit of effort just like in "real life" is the way you will land a quality woman or a sexy couple.
Lead with personality, an original introduction, a fun travel photo to strike up a conversation ...
STOP thinking with your DICK and use your BRAIN , you may find far more success here within the community.
Thank you for all of our followers & readers
[We are JCHRIS 2018 AND WE APPROVE THIS MESSAGE]
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PREFERENCE vs Prejudice -TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD
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Posted:Apr 14, 2018 7:46 pm
Last Updated:Dec 27, 2019 9:51 am
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We have NO no issue with the MRS inviting whomever she wants to "hang out" with or meet.
However, she may sincerely appreciate a personality and find interest and commonality but she finds the least attraction to blonde/redheaded white men and African American, Indian and Asian
- -just does not find these men sexually appealing-- BUT we have many different breadth of "friends" that we DO NOT PLAY WITH because of NO sexual interest
We have met quite a few men outside of her preference level... and in 5 years --she has chosen Zero to move forward to a sexual level... so it is similar to not liking onions
Although she can appreciate that they add a certain flavor and value to a dish...she has absolutely no taste for them. Those preferences dont usually change no matter how persistent i am about adding "onions" to the dish.
For me the MR having more openness to different people means potentially more fun---to her she just looks for a few subsets of people, she is most attracted to and that's latino -or European tanned white skinned skinned men --
So truly most black men and men of other ethnicity, MISS the fact that she doesn't find preference in WHITE BLONDE , blue eyed men, Asians or Indians either ,
So it is not a question of attraction of Race or prejudice at all but a matter of simple preference.... From a societal standpoint ,we dont necessarily categorize any race conversation around White women who dont like blonde , blue eyed white men ---
We just call that a preference. WHY WE SHOULD BE RIDICULED FOR A PREFERENCE MAKES NO SENSE --- DOES EVERY MAN find attraction to a 492 pound woman even though she is super sweet and has an awesome personality –or do you call that a PREFERENCE of yours? DOES EVERY GUY LOVE FLAT CHESTED WOMEN or do you have a PREFERENCES FOR LARGER?
Since the MR has so many years in the lifestyle ,,,she is welcome to explore at her own pace and interest level .
I have asked her if she is ok meeting some more men outside her preference level .. she dismisses the suggestion --feels like it wastes peoples time and potentially leads them on and she does not like doing either.
She also feels that no matter how cool --most men cannot let go of the true agenda-- to have sex.. and this gives her anxiety that truly it can never be a "i want to meet you for the quality of your profile or interaction"...but more so-- i do value all of these things but in the back of my mind I "might have a chance to get there and have sex"....and her mind there is absolutely no chance no matter how debonair, charming or intelligent or the level of commonality and cool personality.
she has met some 150 men in 5 years and chosen 9 to play with --that's 2 per year from those that on the onset fit her preferences perfectly... so selective to say the least ---she feels that if she does not find what she is looking for she chooses not to play at all .
The lifestyle is an enhancement for us and not the goal !!!!!
We have frequented clubs like HEDO , TEMPTATIONS and many others around the world... she has been propositioned HUNDREDS OF TIMES by BLONDE MEN, RED HEADS, ASIANS INDIANS , BLACK MEN and in 30 years of her lifetime in or OUTSIDE the lifestyle has not chosen to sleep with any of them.....not from a prejudice but simply from no sexual attraction from a visual perspective.. she does not find the look visually attractive..
Preferences and tolerance are supposed to be held in high regard here... while we are tolerant of all sexuality we also have NO PREFERENCE for GAY or bisexual MEN
WHY is this preference ACCEPTED by the masses that we dont find gay or bi people attractive yet we get ridiculed for the same type of preference when it comes to ethnicity.
There is a BIG difference between the definitions of the word PREJUDICE and PREFERENCE.
For those that feel the need to ridicule us or send intolerant messages....you will need to learn the difference because we are SURE that you have preferences of your own !
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How to write a quality message to others-Communication tips
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Posted:Mar 28, 2018 6:29 pm
Last Updated:Apr 29, 2019 6:50 pm
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Oh, I, could tell you why
The oceans near the shore
I could think of things I'd never
Thunk before,
And then I'd sit down and think some more.
I would not be just a muffin',
My head all full of stuffin',
My heart all full of pain;
And perhaps I'd deserve you and be
Even worthy even you
If I only had a brain.
SCARECROW -WIZARD OF OZ
We have one of the most detailed profiles on this site, with explicit road map on the best approach yet we still get one word or one sentence greetings asking if we are interested?
There are plenty of couples that are looking for stunt cock and have limited profile descriptions themselves, so possibly from inference you may "get by" with these couples with such a mediocre or sub par greeting. However when you see a couple that has actually spent time and effort giving a great deal of detail it should automatically be considered that maybe....they are looking for more.
We are one of the rare single male friendly couples on any site.
Like the opening of the wizard of oz excerpt, we only WISH single men had a fucking brain. Be worthy, sit and think before sending a lackluster introduction. Especially when you have a couple that spent time to let you know exactly how to respond . OH wait we should be absolutely ECSTATIC that you sent a "HEY!" message --HOLY SHIT 3 letters and an EXCLAMATION POINT --OH now we found the one .. let me get my wife ready SPREAD her legs WIDE open and get ready for the most intuitive, most intense , ground breaking sex she has ever received ---anyone writing 3 letters and an exclamation MUST be the absolute best choice there is in the universe.
Come on? Think, use your brain- HOW does your message stand out among the 200 others that we receive monthly and garner our attention with such a lack of efffort in reading and apparent attention to detail.
or wait "Hung, 26 year old with stamina " ----get plenty of those ---OF course we are so interested no picture , no value and absolutely no reference to the things we offered in profile that may be important to us.
Step By step:
1) Read profile
2) respond with something of interest that specifically points to a SPECIFIC thing you like about our profile or HOW YOU fit the preferences WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
3) Show some effort -give examples or direct reasons why you feel you may be a good match
4) STOP leading with your own agenda --& quote;"I want to meet because I want to fuck her", means nothing to us ---you are one in a sea of lackluster , mediocre responses
5) OPEN pictures or be ready to provide --HOW can we offer invite when UNABLE to gauge attraction -or have only a COCK pic-we dont invite cocks to meet --we invite MEN with personality and intelligence-Common fucking sense
5) Use common sense --she is not a piece of meat and sex is not guaranteed --nothing in life is-- natural conversation and interest is how HUMAN BEHAVIOR works -- not a cock pic -- fucktard !
We actually list preferences and a direct step by step on how to approach us and yet still get ridiculous introductions..
We know we are on a sex site BUT is it so unimaginable that we expect some intelligence, intuition and effort?
How about natural communication and conversation SKILL above and beyond sex? If you cant write a complete thought or give effort in introducing yourself how do you think we feel YOU PERFORM IN BED? With the the same disregard and lack of interest other than getting yourself off?
This is your chance to make a first impression --why is it that our society has lost all its ability to make a quality introduction and offer anything of value more than a few words and a virtual bullshit greeting.
We are actually very approachable, honest, sincere people that want to meet --but also have a certain expectation to at least read profile and extend a moderate level of effort with us-
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Why do so few people meet & where has the integrity gone in society-STATISTICAL EVALUATION.
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Posted:Mar 28, 2018 6:26 pm
Last Updated:Dec 27, 2019 9:52 am
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We have been trying meet quality men for over 6 years between our profile here (newer than 6 yrs old) and our other accounts on other swing sites.
STATISTICAL EVALUATION from a couple where MR has 10+ years experience in the Lifestyle
First some scientific or more so psychological research behind why so few people actually meet entice some provocative thought
DATING SITE ARTICLE
We feel this site being community created is the lesser of the evil compared other sites.
We tend be more analytical than most and willing chronicle our experience in hopes that other people have the same interest in making the community better for all of us. So we invite a few men ONLY ensure that a few will show up as the statistics on this are so poor--
NOT only do our own stats PROVE it ---so does science and numerous studies by psychology today and many others
The truly surprising part is that 30% to 70% of members on ALL dating sites , no matter what type-vanilla or otherwise , have ABSOLUTELY NO intention of meeting at all. SEE ARTICLE -https://www.elitedaily./dating/use-tinder-for-sa… Title"People Aren't Using Tinder Date Or Hook Up, Science Says" ---
Our hypothesis:
Many are using as an ego boost or illusory fantasy of popularity -like having 2000 friends on faceboo There are many articles in psychology today explaining the same.
Truth is DATING sites are MULTI billion dollar entities all often owned by one carrying company---if they actually reported REAL numbers ---who would buy membership...ALSO if they were so successful at matching people ---you would have significant attrition in membership and thus loss of profits---
SPOILER ALERT ---dating sites are NOT entirely designed to be good at matching people--- Keep in mind NO STUDY can take into account how many married men pose as a single that have absolutely no real availability to meet and use the site more as a fodder for masturbation stringing along otherwise sincere couples or single women that want to meet.
Also the advent of technology and cell phones offer instantaneous information and opportunity for the bigger or better at a moments notice otherwise diluting the value of peoples integrity to meet. So few people whether her or in the vanilla world keep to preset plans often waiting till last moment to see if there will be "something better to do". If you look at the era of CORDED phones ---once you left the receiver on the wall, you expected that the time, date and location you gave would be adhered to ----and it often WAS---why because you had limited opportunity for contact so people had the expectation that you would do what you say --NOT be ten minutes late, or offer a late excuse via on why you now cant make it.
Why is it that so few men actually show up when invited out meet AFTER they confirm 1 week prior meeting date and AGAIN confirm same day of agreed meeting date, yet cancel last minute or result in no contact , no shows? It would be normal if all men we invite were NOT double confirmed both by email then via cell phone, and then still DONT SHOW UP . It our most frustrating complaint about the lifestyle and human nature in general.
**2016
May 14th --invited 8 men -- 3 showed
June 18th --invited 6 men ---2 showed
July 15th --invited 3 men --1 showed
August 15th --invited 6 men -- 2 showed
August 27th --invited 3 men --0 showed ----ZERO not even email or message after confirming that they would be there!!!
September 26th invited 5 men -- 1 showed
October 29th invited 4 men -- 1 showed
December 19th -invited 8 men ---4 showed
2017
January 21-- invited 1 guy - 1 guy showed -happened to be a repeat from previous meet in Atlantic city
March 11- invited 4 men to meet -ZERO SHOWED UP
April 15, - invited 8 men to meet-2 showed
May 20th,-invited 4 men- 1 showed
July 8th & 9th- (OVERSEAS) -invited 15 men to meet 4 showed apparently the issue is NOT geographically isolated the the USA 
July 29th --invited 8 men --Atlantic city NJ4 showed
August 19th -invited 8 men -2 showed ---it is just ridiculous -consistent statistics, why say you are coming to meet and then not show!!!!
September 16th -invited 6 men- Philadelphia location--1 showed up -- all 6 RSVP'd 1 week prior & again early afternoon---by night time -usual cancellations and no shows
September 28th -invited 8 men - Charlotte NC- 2 showed up -again all were
double confirmed prior and either cancelled last minute or no show at all
Oct 28th- Atlantic city NJ - invited 8- 2 showed
Nov 11th- invited 4 men - ZERO SHOWED UP
December 16 Invited 8 men - 4 showed up -GREAT GROUP -everyone stayed and partied at night club- she made great connection with ONE
2018
January 20th- invited 15 all week in advance- vetted-screened and double confirmed-- 3 men showed up**
2019
Invited 55 men meet -
Only 15 showed meet this year
1 sexual connection so far for the year
So far in a years time we have had 5 grandmothers pass away on a saturday approximately 7pm for most which was about 3 hours from our meeting time--pension for death on Saturdays we guess (WE DO APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE THAT DID SINCERELY HAVE A GRANDMOTHER DEATH but you must imagine that statistically the probablity is low for all of them match dates and time frame of our preset meet dates)
9 car accidents ONE which sent picture of accident illustrating a rain storm (HAD NOT rained in 3 weeks lol--smart guy),
Numerous fell asleep, plenty ofi was too drunk , 3 broken limbs, 8 hospitalizations, over 20 . i have my that weekend AFTER knowing the date upfront and committing,
We are still awaiting our first ALIEN ABDUCTION and DEMONIC POSSESSION excuses-- NOW that would be original and unique ---
We invite a few men to meet on same night does NOT mean we are looking for gangbang. This is a chance to meet, nothing more.
ALL OF The men invited above CONFIRMED and RSVP times prior NOT showing up. We explain upfront, that you may be meeting with other men due the significant level of cancellations that we always endure.
Each time this is explained we get men that say 100% i will show up if invited-As you see from stats, we have LESS show up than invited and confirmed meet.
PLEASE SHOW UP IF INVITED-THIS IS OUR #1 ISSUE WITH THIS SITE AND online LS.
IF you say you want meet -DO WHAT YOU SAY -Have some courtesy and appreciation for how many hours of calls, emails, planning and schedule coordinating this takes for a quality couple with busy lives make plans. It is frustrating get no contact, no shows last minute after a lot of effort and work!. OR TONS of emails 1 hour before trying to meet with questions you had opportunity to ask much earlier
We have offered over 950 invites to meet us over the last 6 years, all double confirmed. ONLY 250 men total have physically shown up to meet -representing a 29% success level on actually meeting---
She has chosen 11 to with in the 6 year time frame out of the 250 men met--A true success level of 4%.
We say this offer direct and honest communication- We love have fun but the chemistry and interaction must be a combination between physical attraction and social ability. There is much more the decision than just showing up and being present/
We started initially trying meet one man at a time,over a six month period having invited one man meet almost every weekend for 6 months...
that’s 24 opportunities, we met only 3 people that actually showed up, all others CANCELLED or NO SHOW, and none were direct matches for her, for a multitude of different reasons.
So we analyzed our method and found that statistically cancelled on 21 times out of 24, Thats a 87.5% failure rate and truthfully 100% failure rate if you take into consideration that out of the 3 we met ...NONE were a quality connections.
There is a complete misunderstanding about our profile-WE DONT MEET IN LARGE GROUPS.
We have since become very busy in our corporate careers ,
We have only ONE DAY A MONTH to meet lifestyle people. We will NOT COMPROMISE our own quality time for the sake of the lifestyle.
So How do you increase the odds FIRST that people will actually show up....and second that there will actually be a quality match???
We have learned even the most well intentioned males tell us "I AM 100% to show up" they RSVP , reconfirm same day .. then 1 hour before we are to meet we get some excuse, malady, emergency or no contact at all ,and they don’t show up. You are reading a profile with almost 2 years of data, same consistent results.
So, we decided with limited time available in our schedules, due to busy corporate travel, to MAKE MORE INVITES to compensate for the ill will that most single men display,so that at least some one shows up to meet, that we have already "vetted" emailed, screened and had conversations with.
Even with all that effort, we get no shows. OR we get men that show 10 years older than pic, 50 pounds fatter, ask for sex within 15 minutes, completely misrepresent their personalities or agenda and a whole host of stories we could continue to tell.
However , the initial problem still exists-no matter what an online persona is ...ONLY 25% of those invited even show up for a chance to meet, talk or have a drink no matter what they look like,no matter the fact that they insisted they would show up, and no matter that they confirmed the very same day.
So our method is very simple... knowing that only 25% show up ... means mathematically that we have to invite approx. 4 to have one show .....8 to have 2 men show etc.. Over almost 2 years expressed in our profile we have had only 4 show up at most even though we had offered far more invites...since SO MANY CANCEL last minute - we truly DONT MEET IN LARGE GROUPS
We are also very cognizant to give everyone equal time and treat it as more of a meet and greet scenario, she never chooses to play with anyone without a few hours of exposure and comfort. In essence ,HELL the same type of meet and greet you may put yourself in by going to a vanilla bar where 3 to 4 men are vying for position for an attractive singe woman, no?
We set the stage that we do not expect any competition/testosterone battles and may even mediate ourselves if we see such behavior, pretty well versed in managing behaviors and managing up front before they happen.
In fact this gives us a great deal of input as to how the person interacts with others, what stories they decide to tell, how keen they are on conversation skills, attention to detail, body language and much more as far as interaction, and can be far more telling than meeting alone where some one's best or even "fake" persona is leading the way.
Any sexual opportunity will ONLY arise after there is an established level of connection, good conversation, social ability , attention to detail ,ability to read body language, physical attraction etc....
We say this because we are not your average couple and the best way to connect with her is to attract her brain, the largest sexual organ she has. We do like sex and want to meet quality men for her but she does not know if she will extend an offer until there is an established level of natural attraction.
We also list the items above ,since sadly, many men, although extremely attractive, do not possess the above qualities in combination enough to capture her attention.
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